Saturn In Your Chart

[Michael Hawkins]

So... how is Saturn impacting your natal chart?

In my chart (November 21, 1962, 8:54 pm, Fresno, CA, USA), transiting Saturn is coming up on a conjunction with Moon in Libra in the 3rd house, while trining 7th house Saturn/South Node in Aquarius.

Right now, as I intensify my oracular arts practice by welcoming new clients, involving myself as a teacher and availing myself as a mentor to ecstatic contemplatives, I read Saturn's influence in terms of:

a) how I nourish myself and others (Moon);

b) how I communicate my perspective, while receiving and integrating new ideas and perspectives (3rd house of Gemini);

c) an openness to Right Livelihood, feeling that "suddenly" the time has arrived for me to engage my mission in life (Saturn trine Saturn -- see "e)";

d) the karmic environment in which I incarnated (South Node in Aquarius, 7th house), how I am challenged to form relationships that are part of a larger network of evolutionary change, recognizing that this network is self-sustaining and Divine;

and e) how my lifelong resistance to Authority and Structure is being transformed, such that I'm more and more able to embrace life's Saturnian side on my own terms, working with it in empowering ways (Saturn trine Saturn, redux).

And you?

Share your birth coordinates and we'll see what Saturn has to say about your life at this time....

[juliemarie]

whats up with my Saturn! Ouch.. (me Juliemarie Sept. 23 1972 Evergreen Park Illinois.4:01pmrectified)
BTW Michael you have my sons Birthday Nov 21st.
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Well currently Transit Saturn is conjunct my stellium in the 8th- I am worried- well thats Saturn for ya being worried and the 8th well lets not get too worried but yeah I am. I have been kinda dreading this time in my life aware for so many years how destructive it may be. (hoping its more shall we say transformational)
Saturn has already past my Natal Mars and some its influnce could range from the miscarriage I had (I think today exactly this date not that I want toremember that- a year ago when Saturn was also square natal 20 Gemini Saturn which in the 5th, yes children, yes from the 8th to the 5th--exactly as it reads I was restricted from having another child then). To my younger brothers death. (Last May 26th my younger brother died. Sad ..yes he was only 31 just past the Saturn return and I thought perhaps life would be easier for him. He had alot of hard luck before and pain. So now hes gone.. I didn't think well..now he is at peace but in a different way). His death was hard on both my parents- the past summer they were either in the hospital for various reasons or rehab centers. It wasn't until August they returned home yet sience this past Sunday Dads been in the Hospital again. The restriction is yes on my SUN which can be thought of as my Dad as well and he as well has been complaining of stiffness - Well, I am hoping he gets better soon.
Yes Saturn has been lingering around my 8th.
Natal Mars in 25 Virgo- 8th now past
My natal Sun is at 0 Libra in8th (transit is NOW here)
My Natal Pluto is at 1 degree Libra in 8th (yeah VERY close)
Natal Mercury 4 Libra (I am feeling it and its only getting harder to communicate and it seams like everything is taking forever..)
and after awhile it will get to conjunct my natal Uranus at17 Libra.

Natally my Saturn is in Gemini (exact conjunction with my dads natal Sun)
where my Saturn is Placed is my 5th house. I can descibe this not just in terms of how Saturn squared its natal self 8th to natal 5th, but as a life long general hard time speaking up either that or I just cut short what I say (although it may not seam like it here) So as I have aged I have gotten better at speaking up. You can also think of it as restricted when you think of my now teenager I miss her yet due to responsibilities I don't see her as much as I like. Well shes also very smart shes 16 and in college already so she is also very responsible. I am a Responsible person myself and responsible to my children and I do also have 2 little ones (people think they are twins like Gemini- again Saturn in Gemini 5th!) these little one who really give me a hard (Saturn) time if I don't take charge they would really run me down, well they kinda do I am exausted but I love them!! Saturn is my Chart ruler (I am Capricorn rising)so its ingrained in me. I guess I just have a Libra Love of a hard time --just not too hard hopefully.
Well take care everyone and have a good night,
juliemarie

[Michael Hawkins]

Not to mention, Juliemarie, your 8th house stellium trined a Capricorn Ascendant. Yikes!

A miscarriage, a young brother's premature death, both parents mourning and in difficult health circumstances -- all the connections you've established between 8th house and 5th house, where natal Saturn sits in Gemini, it all resonates and I appreciate you sharing.

Rather than do the typical male thing of trying to "make it all better," I think I'll just add a couple insights from your chart, just to see what happens.

I see where Pluto's been hovering over 11th house Jupiter, stradling Sagittarius and Capricorn. In fact, Capricorn on both the 12th house cusp and the Ascendant indicates that you've spent at least the last two lives working on Saturn/Capricorn issues -- so it makes a lot of sense that Saturn transits would be extremely "loaded" for you. In a way, the Pluto transit has possibly been preparing you for Saturn moving over your 8th house stellium, especially if we use a 7 degree orb for Pluto -- these past five years or so have challenged you around relinquishment, loss, disolution... to the point where higher spiritual principles embodied by Jupiter are the only refuge. Ironically, the fact that Pluto is past its direct hit on Jupiter -- entering the construction phase after all the destruction -- may just lighten things up as Saturn rumbles through the 8th. Like the Tower card in Tarot, there's the falling down and then there's the building up, and I would not be surprised if, right here in the midst of all this Saturn business, an entirely new (and appropriate) Structure presents itself in your life.

For all the frightening portents that Saturn often indicates, there is a corresponding anticipation of the structure that slowly arises. It may take some time to unfold, but it WILL happen, mi amiga.

[juliemarie]

Thanks Michael, and Yeah I would say using that 7 degree orb makes sense because I Really experienced alot of personal loss & letting go 4-5 years ago before the birth of my 2nd daughter. I really can go on here but I will just say thanks for the comments got me thinking alot on this more and realizing remembering I have been through alot already and have let go for awhile now, Yes absolutely. Its a manner of responsibility, not a bad thing really.